president obama was saying something the other day, i'm not really a good debater. gee -- >> they're both very, very smart guys. >> if you talk about the top 1%, intellect, these guys are in the top 1%. there's nothing to choose between them on intellect. there's a lot to choose between them on policy. i hope they get into a good discussion of policy because from my point of view i think romney would get the better of that but i'm not sure. we'll see. >> we looked at past debates. some folks seem to get into trouble when they start debating over the debate rules themselves. i want to play a quick montage of stuff. >> i have to let senator obama respond. go ahead and respond. >> wait -- >> you just spoke for two minutes. >> you said two things. >> you can dispute that but let me finish. you went on for two minutes. let me finish. >> i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here, is that i get 60 seconds and then you get 30 seconds to respond, right? anderson? >> you say that you knew -- >> would you pl